In the inaugural episode of our Podcast, an AI-generated interviewer from ElevenLabs sits down with Edésio Santana for an unconventional conversation recorded near Congonhas International Airport in São Paulo.

Against a backdrop of real aircraft departures and arrivals, the discussion explores leadership, systems thinking, enterprise transformation, and the evolving relationship between humans and intelligent technologies.

Part experiment, part reflection, the episode sets the tone for future conversations within the ecosystem, where technology, curiosity, and human experience intersect to better understand how organizations learn, adapt, and reinvent themselves.